What’s New and What’s Next at Citrix: LTSR, UHMC, Secure Browsers & More

In Episode 181 of The Citrix Session, hosts Bill Sutton and Todd Smith dive into the key takeaways from the blog “What’s New and Next with Citrix: Q&A from our May 2025 Webinar.” From release cadence updates and licensing clarity to enhanced integration with Windows 365 and Nutanix, this episode is packed with forward-looking insights for Citrix admins and tech leaders.

🔍 What You’ll Learn:

• Why Citrix is moving to annual LTSR releases
• How UHMC licensing simplifies multi-cloud deployment
• The difference between the Secure Browser and Enterprise Browser
• How Citrix is integrating with Chrome Enterprise Premium, Unicon, and Elux
• Upcoming SSO and identity access changes using Entra ID
• PVS + Nutanix integrations and what’s coming in Web Studio
• What Citrix is doing to enable zero-trust browser access and secure SaaS use
• Real-world endpoint strategies including BYOD, thin clients, and USB redirection

Whether you’re catching up during your commute or tuning in to stay ahead of the curve, this episode offers a deep but approachable breakdown of what’s shaping the future of Citrix.

Transcript

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Bill Sutton: Hello, Hello, everyone, and welcome to another session of the Citrix session, our blog about all things, or our podcast rather about all things. Citrix. My name is Bill Sutton. I'm your host today. I also have with me Todd Smith from Citrix Todd. You want to say hello to our audience.

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Todd Smith: Sure. Hey, Bill? And everyone out in Listening Land?

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Todd Smith: Glad to be back. This is, I think this is the best for me. It's like 3 weeks in a row. We've been able to to jump on.

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Bill Sutton: I know it's last week we had everybody. I think we had everybody including our our guests. If you have.

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Bill Sutton: our listeners haven't heard the one from last week that's the one with Citrix and Nutanix. So we had a guest on that, so I encourage you to go back and listen to that. Todd, I've I've had a number of folks recently that I've been on calls with that said Yeah. I listen to your podcast I was at a meeting at a customer. Was it last week? Yeah, last week on Thursday, down in Norfolk, Virginia, and somebody even commented there that yeah, I enjoy listening to the podcast I listen to them on my way to or from work.

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Bill Sutton: Forget what she said. So we definitely are getting some traction, though I haven't looked lately to see what the numbers look like.

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Todd Smith: Yeah, it's kind of interesting between between podcasts and audio books. I've really stopped listening to the radio unless it's listening to like live baseball games, or.

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Todd Smith: you know, some some sports radio talk, but

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Todd Smith: it's been. It's been kind of a kind of a

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Todd Smith: pretty large shift for me. It's, you know between audio books and and podcasts. You know this is one of those podcasts that I listen to religiously. So.

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Bill Sutton: Yeah, I I listen to. That's what I've started doing, too, on my trips down to Huntersville from Richmond. It's about a 4 and a half hour drive. And and I've found myself listening to a variety of podcasts, some that are, you know, directly relevant to our industry and some that are more general. I don't know if you ever heard of the acquired or Acq Podcasts.

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Bill Sutton: Those are actually pretty good acquired where they acquired is a couple of guys. I think they're in the were in the financial space that basically take a company like Microsoft or Meta or Google.

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Bill Sutton: and they just break it apart and talk about the founding, and and they interview some of the some of the founders, and they talk about how the company got started and how it grew. And it's just fascinating. Quite frankly, they actually did like a 2 part series on Standard Oil of California, going back a century that one.

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Todd Smith: Real.

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Bill Sutton: You know, talking about the Rockefeller family and the trust, and how that, how, how he got going. So it's a very interesting one. You might want to. It's called acquired just the word.

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Todd Smith: Okay.

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Bill Sutton: It's it's most of theirs are very long, but they have Acq 2, which is their sister, which is typically just about an hour hour and a half. Most of their acquired podcasts are like 4 to 5 h. So it's a commitment but most of the time. I can listen to them on my drive to Charlotte, which I'll be doing again next week. So.

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Todd Smith: Yeah, I've I've become accustomed to listen to it like 1.7 speed.

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Bill Sutton: Yeah.

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Todd Smith: Up a little bit, makes it go a little faster. Some of them have been re-listening to, or actually listening to, but I've read the book a couple of times the books, a couple of.

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Bill Sutton: I mean.

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Todd Smith: That is up Shelby Foote's trilogy on the American Civil War.

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Bill Sutton: Oh, wow! Okay.

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Todd Smith: I'm through. I'm through a

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Todd Smith: volume 2 I'm on. I'm starting up. Volume 3. But that's that's like a 25 h.

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Bill Sutton: Oh, wow!

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Todd Smith: Each one of them. So it takes a little time. But it's going pretty well. And then from a podcast, perspective, I found you know Mike Rowe.

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Todd Smith: The way the way I heard it. And then also.

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Todd Smith: Ryan Hawk does one called The Learning Leader, which is really really good.

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Bill Sutton: Check that out.

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Todd Smith: Brings in

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Todd Smith: brings in guests from the industry all kinds of different industries and kind of works through that that leadership perspective so.

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Bill Sutton: Right cool.

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Bill Sutton: Alright. So today we're gonna cover a blog article, the title of which is

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Bill Sutton: What's new. And next, you know what I just realized, Todd, I didn't say what episode this is. Episode 1 81. I just. I knew I was missing.

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Todd Smith: Closer to 200. Bill.

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Bill Sutton: Getting one more closer to 200. So, yeah, this is episode 1 81 so we're we're shooting for that. That magic 200 number sometime between now and the end of the year. Hopefully, and we got. We got a good chance of making it so.

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Todd Smith: I think so.

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Bill Sutton: Alright. So back to the blog article it's entitled What's New, and next with Citrix, Q. And a. From our May 2025, Webinar. It's written by Bill Gray, who, I believe, is a CTO with Citrix.

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Todd Smith: Yep, he's he's 1 of our ctos that we recently brought in. He's been here for about a year.

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Todd Smith: You'll get a chance to see Bill

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Todd Smith: present to things like Citrix connect, which is our roadshow, you know. Multi-city roadshow

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Todd Smith: And he does an awful lot of

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Todd Smith: kind of forward, thinking he and Sean Bass, and we've also hired back Brian or hired Brian Madden.

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Todd Smith: Dan fellers coming back. There's a variety of folks that are that are kind of in this role of a field based CTO and and Bill comes to us from the healthcare space. I actually had him as a customer years and years ago, when he was with Cigna. And

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Todd Smith: you know, he's always bringing a lot of good insights into not only where we are, but also what's coming down the down the pipe. And you know, I think this this blog

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Todd Smith: takes it takes a very interesting perspective and approach towards talking about what's new and what's next.

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Bill Sutton: Yep.

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Bill Sutton: yeah. This is based off of obviously by the title based off a webinar that that Citrix did back in May

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Bill Sutton: a month ago or so and it's really just a QA. So we, this is a little bit different for us, because it's really very various topics, and I'll just talk about each major heading and then and then Todd and I can delve into

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Bill Sutton: to the various elements there. So start off like I said, this is

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Bill Sutton: QA. That, I think was, were questions that were asked and answered during the webinar, and many that perhaps were asked answered later, by virtue of this blog article. So the 1st section deals with the release cadence. And what's included in entitlements? And I don't know about you, Todd, before we get into this, I I still see customers that don't really understand

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Bill Sutton: this concept of Uhmc. And Citrix platform, and and even Cpc. For that matter. So maybe give a if you don't mind, give a high level of that for our listeners, for those who may not really understand that.

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Todd Smith: Sure. So so if you look back the way we used to license our products was based on which delivery method you're using. So there was an on-prem license model. There was a a cloud based licensing model, and in the cloud based licensing model there was different products available for azure, for Aws for Gcp. And you really could never mix and match those licenses across the different delivery models that are out there.

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Todd Smith: So what we did is we introduced universal hybrid multi-cloud, which allows you to have one single license that you could run on prem

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Todd Smith: in the cloud, public cloud or private cloud, as well as in a hybrid mode.

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Todd Smith: Right? So, not having to go and worry about this license is affiliated with azure. That means I can't take that same license and use it on Prem or in a hybrid approach. What we did with Uhmc is we basically flattened all that out.

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Todd Smith: And then we added, in some of the core components that are included in a citrix ecosystem.

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Todd Smith: and those core components include not only the apps and desktop capabilities, but the VPN gateway capabilities. So your remote access license, as well as things like Pvs and Mcs and window Workspace.

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Todd Smith: right adding in the profile management capabilities. So all of this, all of these individual products kind of got merged into one single skew for the customer to buy that can cover all the different delivery models and include all of the capabilities that they need. Now, we've also added some new

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Todd Smith: acquisitions. We've added device Trust. We've added Uber agent. We've added Unicon. Those licenses have also been included into the Uhmc licenses.

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Todd Smith: What makes Uhmc different from what we call Cpl. Or our platform license platform license includes

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Todd Smith: an unlimited number of connections. So it's think of it as a custom wall to wall purchase. Right? So if I've got X number of users, I can license all of my users as part of as part of a platform license.

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Todd Smith: but I can also turn it around and add in some of those corner use cases like, for instance, strong network, or our secure, our secure development workspace.

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Todd Smith: We've also added in some some unlimited capabilities as well into it.

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Todd Smith: pricing model as opposed to Uhmc, which is still based on a a concurrent user or user device model from a licensing perspective.

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Todd Smith: And then Citrix. Private Cloud is kind of one of those products that you mentioned it, Bill, that, you know, we're not seeing a lot of traction on it, but we're seeing some customers leverage it mostly on the Smb space. I'm a small midsize business

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Todd Smith: and the the reason why is because that's traditionally just a virtual app or virtual desktop use case.

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Bill Sutton: Yeah, it's mostly on Prem or entirely on Prem.

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Bill Sutton: Yes, that's right.

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Bill Sutton: Yeah. And we're kind of in the same. But we don't see a lot of that. Really. What we see more of is is customers leveraging the Csp licensing that we can offer them that enables enables fully Uhmc functionality. As opposed to Cpc. If they don't need or want or have any desire for cloud, then a lot of times, Cpc. Is where they go, but that's pretty. I could probably count on one hand the number of Cpc. Deals we've done since it was available. Most folks understand the value of the cloud, and and want to go that direction.

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Bill Sutton: Yeah, alright. So the again under the 1st section here release cadence. And what's included? The 1st question that's that's posed here is, when is the next? Cbat, Ltsr. And Ltsr, of course, stands for long term service release. The cadence of this, some has changed somewhat. The next version is targeted for 25 0, 7 so that would be this.

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Todd Smith: July. That's coming right around the corner, Bill.

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Bill Sutton: Right around the corner. That's right.

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Bill Sutton: So there is an early access release program for this. But those are generally limited to and recommended in non production cases. Maybe maybe we should talk a little bit about the Ltsr concept. And what's changing that, Todd, if you've got that.

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Todd Smith: Sure. Yeah. So so a couple of things, right? So we used to do. Ltsrs every couple of years. What we realized when you have a Ltsr, that's A, that's a long term service release, which means we're going to to allow it to be run for

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Todd Smith: multiple years and still provide services right? And it's not going to be the same as a current release current releases whatever's new gets added into it. It requires a lot of updates and some testing and things like that. But there's some features that get dropped into the current release that customers were having to wait till the next Ltsr, to get it into

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Todd Smith: on on a less frequent basis.

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Todd Smith: In response to that that request from a lot of customers we came. We came

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Todd Smith: with the conclusion that we need to speed up the the frequency of our long term service releases. So with this year, we're starting off on an annual Ltsr.

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Todd Smith: and then there will be 2 Crs, 2 current releases sprinkled throughout the rest of the year.

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Todd Smith: The value there is that you're still going to get the event the benefit of the long-term service release. It's still going to be multiple years.

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Todd Smith: But we're going to be releasing those on a more frequent basis.

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Todd Smith: So what that means is, you're not going to have to wait for, hey? There's a new. There's a new feature or a new function that's been added in here or there was a, you know, a private hot fix that that we're going to have to wait a couple years before it actually gets put into

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Todd Smith: a long term acceptable service release. So the big benefit there is that we've we've increased the frequency of Ltsrs

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Todd Smith: to allow customers to go on the most recent, you know, updates

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Todd Smith: still providing that long term service and support, and then be able to also have that impact on our overall

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Todd Smith: we do have an updated product, lifecycle lifecycle page directly off citrix.com. So you can actually see

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Todd Smith: what our life cycles are going to look like. And this is where it's critical, right? We've got

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Todd Smith: where it fits in. So customers aren't going to have to wait a long period of time to to make use of those.

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Bill Sutton: Exactly so again. Say, tell me again. Here I'm pretty pretty sure it's in the next question. The next question on here was, Where can you get more details on the release cadence? And and Todd did a great job just describing that. Well, relative to Ltsr, it's gonna be each year right, either. Q, 2, yeah.

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Bill Sutton: It's gonna be once once a year for Ltsr, and twice a year for the

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Bill Sutton: Yeah, that'll that'll enable customers that need them. The longer support window being able to get few new features quicker. For sure.

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Bill Sutton: Alright! The next question was, does using windows 365, with Citrix, require extra licensing, and I think we, you and I know, Todd, it does not they, as long as they have an active citrix subscription. They can use that for windows, 365 machines. Any any further comments on that.

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Todd Smith: Yeah. So so I think this is probably a question that you know I get asked probably 3 or 4 times a week. Some of my peers and some of some of the folks on the Ats team get get asked this question almost daily. And I'm sure you, as a partner gets. Get asked this multiple times even more than we do. But really, this is a this is

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Todd Smith: a way to leverage a truly a better together. Story of windows 365.

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Todd Smith: In. Specifically like the cloud. PC. Capabilities

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Todd Smith: deliver some high quality applications and some of those additional functionality. So a lot of the hdx capabilities that customers have gotten used to being able to leverage that in a windows 3, 65, or an Avd type of delivery scenario.

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Bill Sutton: Yeah, I use it every day. I leverage. When a windows 3, 65 cloud PC. Directly through the the Citrix workspace. App. I, I turn on my laptop, which does, is really nothing more now than a thin client.

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Bill Sutton: Windows. 10 client. Turn on my laptop, fire up the workspace, app and launch my cloud. PC. The beauty of it is, I just got a keyboard for my ipad, and I can do. I can be very productive just on my my 11 inch ipad. Believe it or not. With with accessing through Citrix. I can do teams, meetings, Zoom Meetings

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Todd Smith: And and if you think about it, Bill, this is something that we demonstrated. Probably 15 years ago, synergy or an iphone was kind of kind of called the Nirvana phone, where your phone was just an access point into a virtual app and virtual desktop environment. And by using things like some of the Bluetooth.

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Todd Smith: Abilities and the extended

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Todd Smith: connecting to a physical monitor, and being able to say, Hey, I've got my compute device. Now, the the thing that I use to access the entire environment is nothing more than a smartphone.

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Todd Smith: I think about how this has all changed. You just described your primary workload

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Todd Smith: And we're seeing a lot of customers that are saying, Hey, you know what? We really need to have a thin client life like experience. And we talked about this on a couple of blog posts or a couple of

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Todd Smith: podcast ago, right? Where we talked about the movement towards thin client computing as a way to deal with windows, 11 challenges to deal with, hardware requirements for windows, 11 to deal with, supply chain issues, to deal with tariffs and things like that.

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Todd Smith: But it really is. It's a way to reduce the management cost of those endpoints and yet still maintain that level of an awesome user experience for the end user.

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Bill Sutton: absolutely so. Next question is concerning chrome enterprise premium, and whether that's included in the Citrix licensing, chrome Enterprise premium, which I'm sure Todd can talk about here because I think you just started using it recently. This is the evolution of the the Citrix enterprise. Browser enterprise. Yeah. The enterprise, browser, leveraging chrome enterprise premium, and it is included in the Citrix licensing at the platform level.

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Todd Smith: At the platform at the platform level. That's correct.

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Bill Sutton: You want to expound on that some Todd, as.

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Todd Smith: Sure, sure. So several years ago we introduced the Citrix Citrix Enterprise Browser, which is a chromium based solution.

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Todd Smith: Recently we made it an announcement about a partnership with Google to provide chrome enterprise premium as part of your Citrix license. And this is going to be. It's a native chrome.

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Todd Smith: that can be fully managed. All of your policies that you're used to with a citrix session and things like that.

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Todd Smith: Can those who have come across

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Todd Smith: and the benefit here is Number one. You can lock down.

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Todd Smith: Number 2? Is it leverages? The local resources on that endpoint, still maintains centralized control

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Todd Smith: and centralized control can be everything, from the policies to all of the ingress and egress points throughout that browser connection, and also what you can do with the actual data. So a lot of organizations are concerned with

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Bill Sutton: alright. That covers the 1st category, second, category, identity and access intra id fas fas and spa. So the 1st question here is, can we use intra id sso without faz, for on prem on prem environments? And the answer at this point is not yet on prem cbad requires ad and intra id with fas

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Bill Sutton: That's like your local browser. But it's got all the policy controls and things that Todd explained earlier, built around it to help provide security controls within the app itself. So it's more that that's what Google, the the Chrome enterprise browser that we were talking about earlier is, it's more of an enterprise. Browser, secure, browser is something that citrix? 1 point, I think, was it. What did they call it remote?

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Bill Sutton: For sure. Alright! That's the end of the Elux category. We'll go to integrations with partners, and I kind of had. I kind of chuckled on the 1st one, knowing who my guest is on the on the podcast today and your background, I'm gonna, let you take this one. But any updates on Pvs integration with Nutanix. I love the fact that somebody asked this question. It demonstrates Pbs is still in the forefront or at the forefront of a lot of administrators minds, doesn't it?

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Bill Sutton: the next category, browser, browser and endpoint security. We touched on this a little bit earlier, but some. There's some deeper questions here. 1st one, can I control local browsers to restrict sas access? The enterprise browser. You absolutely can supports endpoint enforcement of both managed and then unmanaged devices, because it's the browser is effectively managed by a cloud based

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Bill Sutton: podcast. Episode is reviewing this blog in the QA. Obviously, we always say this, if you, if there's questions you have that have not been answered here or answered in the webinar answered from any of our podcasts, just reach out to to myself, or any of, or your salesperson at Centegra, or your Citrix Ats, or Mr. Smith on the call here. We will all we're all willing to, you know, jump in and help and guide you to the right location to get answers to your questions.

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Bill Sutton: Any final thoughts, Todd.

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Todd Smith: You know what, bill this this you know, I think we we've started off a little bit of a trepidation about how this.

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Bill Sutton: And I was thinking the same thing.

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Todd Smith: Really worked out well.

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Bill Sutton: It did, it did. It was really a good article to kind of cover, and you know certainly our listeners could go read this, but if you're driving in the car, at least this gives you the opportunity to or even if you're not, gives you an opportunity to kind of hear us banter back and forth regarding the various questions. So again, if you have further questions or need additional information, don't hesitate to reach out to us.

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Bill Sutton: Thank you, Todd, for joining today.

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Todd Smith: Thanks, Bill. Have a wonderful 4th of July weekend.

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Bill Sutton: Thanks you too.

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Todd Smith: Thank you.

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Bill Sutton: Thanks to our listeners, and we'll see you again next week.